In the 4th installment in the "Symposium" series, Doc welcomes back Ryan J. Downey (Journalist Speak N Destroy Podcast), Eric German (Entertainment Lawyer), and Mike Mowery (Artist Manager) to the show to answer the question, "What does it take to make it in the world or rock and metal in 2024?" This episode features the songs "The Ride" by Centershift and "Rain Down" by Solence. Follow Ryan on Instagram @ryanjdowney_ and Twitter @ryandowney Follow Eric on Instagram and Twitter @ejgerman Follow Mike on Instagram and Twitter @mikeoloop Follow Doc on Instagram and Twitter @DocCoyle Please check out this episode's sponsor Centershift at https://centershift.live/ Listen to more great podcasts like this at soundtalentmedia.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices