For Episode 158, Elia Ayoub is joined by Lebanese journalist and friend of the pod Justin Salhani to talk about recent calls for and acts of violence by far right Lebanese Christians against Syrian refugees. In addition to giving context with regards to what's happening, they talk about Lebanon as a structurally violent state, one which has always scapegoated refugees, first Palestinians and now Syrians. The consequences of the ongoing calls for violence will be long-reaching and long-lasting, with government officials from multiple parties joining in the scapegoating party. The result has been an increasingly dangerous atmosphere for a population that is already amongst the most vulnerable ones. The best way to support The Fire These Times is to: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Become a member of our Patreon at Patreon.com/firethesetimes⁠⁠. With a monthly or yearly subscription, you get perks including early access, exclusive videos, monthly hangouts, access to the video and book clubs, merch and more.Leave a review wherever you listen to podcasts. This allows us to show up on these platforms in the first place.Tell your friends and enemies about it. Episode Credits: Host(s): Elia J. Ayoub Producer: Elia J. Ayoub Guest: Justin Salhani Music: ⁠Rap and Revenge⁠ Sound editor: Artin Salimi Episode designer: Elia J. Ayoub Team profile pics: Molly Crabapple Original TFTT design: Wenyi Geng TFTT Transcripts: Antidotezine

For episode 157, Elia Ayoub sits with Bill Fletcher Jr to talk about why downplaying authoritarianism is so dangerous, whether with regards to the upcoming US elections or even in organising spaces. We spoke about the US, Lebanon, Syria, Zimbabwe and more. Bill Fletcher Jr is a longtime USA-based labor and social justice activist who has worked for several unions and organizations. Fletcher is the former president of TransAfrica Forum; a Senior Scholar with the Institute for Policy Studies; and in the leadership of several other projects. Fletcher is the co-author (with Peter Agard) of “The Indispensable Ally: Black Workers and the Formation of the Congress of Industrial Organizations, 1934-1941”; the co-author (with Dr. Fernando Gapasin) of “Solidarity Divided: The crisis in organized labor and a new path toward social justice“; and the author of “‘They’re Bankrupting Us’ – And Twenty other myths about unions.” Fletcher is a syndicated columnist and a regular media commentator on television, radio and the Web. The best way to support The Fire These Times is to: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Become a member of our Patreon at Patreon.com/firethesetimes⁠⁠. With a monthly or yearly subscription, you get perks including early access, exclusive videos, monthly hangouts, access to the video and book clubs, merch and more.Leave a review wherever you listen to podcasts. This allows us to show up on these platforms in the first place.Tell your friends and enemies about it. Episode Credits: Host(s): Elia J. Ayoub Producer(s): Elia J. Ayoub Guest(s): Bill Fletcher Jr Music: ⁠Rap and Revenge⁠ Sound editor(s): Elia J. Ayoub Episode designer(s): Elia J. Ayoub Team profile pics: Molly Crabapple Original TFTT design: Wenyi Geng

In this special collab episode between Obscuristan and The Fire These Times, Karena Avedissian and Anna are joined by Daniel Voskoboynik to discuss the life of Russian opposition leader Alexei Navalny and what his death means for those of us not quite at the heart of the Russian empire. Plus, Anna and Karena announce that they're joining the wider TFTT collective!  Obscuristan is available wherever you listen to podcasts. About: Join political scientist Karena and total civilian Anna on a trip to Obscuristan. Each week, Karena and Anna dive into a truly bizarre story from Eurasia in its full political, social, and imperialist context. Join us, and you’ll find out why Obscuristan isn’t so strange at all when you consider the sh*t it’s been through. The best way to support The Fire These Times is to: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Become a member of our Patreon at Patreon.com/firethesetimes⁠⁠. With a monthly or yearly subscription, you get perks including early access, exclusive videos, monthly hangouts, access to the video and book clubs, merch and more.Leave a review wherever you listen to podcasts. This allows us to show up on these platforms in the first place.Tell your friends and enemies about it. Episode Credits: Hosts: Karena Avedissian and AnnaProducer: AnnaGuest: Daniel VoskoboynikMusic: ⁠Sarven Yapar⁠Sound editor: AnnaEpisode designer: Elia J. AyoubTeam profile pics: Molly Crabapple

This is a compilation of 4 episodes of our new podcast Politically Depressed, created by writer and organizer Ayman Makarem. These are episodes 9-12 compiled into one long episode (with time codes below). If you enjoy this podcast, please consider following and rating it on whatever app you use to listen to your podcasts (It really makes a huge difference to our visibility.) Time codes: 00:00 - Episode 9: This Fire Will Consume You Too 20:20 - Episode 10: Do Protests Work? 41:45 - Episode 11: I Caught a Zionist Infiltrator at a Palestine Solidarity Protest 59:00 - Episode 12: Community of Grief w/ Lina Mounzer The best way to support Politically Depressed and The Fire These Times is through ⁠⁠⁠⁠Patreon.com/firethesetimes⁠⁠⁠⁠. The other other best way is to tell your friends and enemies about Politically Depressed and The Fire These Times.

For episode 155, Ayman sits with Beirut-based journalist and friend of the show, Justin Salhani, to talk about his recent essay for Al-Jazeera. Expanding on the essay, the two talk about parallels between the 1982 Israeli invasion of Lebanon and siege of Beirut and the ongoing genocide in Gaza. As two children of survivors of the '82 siege, their conversation moves between political/military analysis and discussions of memory and narratives as tools of agency.  The best way to support The Fire These Times is to: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Become a member of our Patreon at Patreon.com/firethesetimes⁠⁠. With a monthly or yearly subscription, you get perks including early access, exclusive videos, monthly hangouts, access to the video and book clubs, merch and more.Leave a review wherever you listen to podcasts. This allows us to show up on these platforms in the first place.Tell your friends and enemies about it. Episode Credits: Hosts: Ayman MakaremProducer: Ayman MakaremGuest: Justin SalhaniMusic: ⁠Rap and Revenge⁠Sound editor: Ayman MakaremEpisode designer: Elia J. AyoubTeam profile pics: Molly CrabappleOriginal TFTT design: Wenyi Geng

For episode 154, French-Moroccan-Amazigh analyst Sahar Amarir joins Elia J. Ayoub and Leila Al-Shami to talk about her piece "Imperialist is Multiple, so Should be Our Solidarities: on the Need for Post-Post-Colonialism"  published in The Funambulist.  The best way to support The Fire These Times is: Through ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Patreon.com/firethesetimes⁠⁠. With a monthly or yearly donation, you get perks including early access, exclusive videos, monthly hangouts, access to the video and book clubs, merch and more. Leave a review wherever you listen to podcasts. This allows us to show up on these platforms in the first place. Tell your friends and enemies about it. Episode Credits: Hosts: Elia J. Ayoub and Leila Al-Shami Producer: Elia J. Ayoub Guest: Margaret Killjoy Music: ⁠⁠Rap and Revenge⁠⁠ Sound editor: Artin Salimi Episode designer: Elia J. Ayoub Team profile pics: Molly Crabapple Original TFTT design: Wenyi Geng

For episode 153, anarchist writer, musician and podcaster Margaret Killjoy joins Elia J. Ayoub and Aydın Yıldız to talk about the very easy topic of apocalypse. What does that even mean? And how do we deal with that without falling into complete despair? Many of y'all know that one of the taglines of this pod is building the new in the shell of the old, right? Well, this is about that. Sort of. It's mainly about staying sane and healthy and as hopeful as possible long enough to even want to build the new in the shell of the old. Margaret Killjoy, in our view, is one of the best minds on this difficult subject, and we think you'll agree. Transcript: This episode's transcript is available on the website. If you'd like to help make The Fire These Times more accessible you can help out with transcriptions by reaching out to Antidote Zine, the collective with whom we are working on transcripts. Show notes: Penumbra City, the new ttrpg by Strangers in a Tangled WildernessMargaret's two pods: Live Like the World is Dying and Cool People Who Did Cool StuffMargaret's essay for Slingshot Collective that's behind this episode's title as well as one of her podcastsMargaret's essay Don't Let Nazis Have Nice Things republished by Antidote Zine The best way to support The Fire These Times is: Through ⁠⁠⁠⁠Patreon.com/firethesetimes⁠. With a monthly or yearly donation, you get perks including early access, exclusive videos, monthly hangouts, access to the video and book clubs, merch and more.Leave a review wherever you listen to podcasts. This allows us to show up on these platforms in the first place.Tell your friends and enemies about it. Episode Credits: Hosts: Elia J. Ayoub and Aydın YıldızProducer: Elia J. AyoubGuest: Margaret KilljoyMusic: ⁠Rap and Revenge⁠Sound editor: Elia J. AyoubEpisode designer: Elia J. Ayoub

For episode 152, Dana El Kurd hosts Geoffrey Levin to talk about his book "Our Palestine Question: Israel and American Jewish Dissent, 1948-1978". Levin is assistant professor of Middle Eastern and Jewish Studies at Emory University and the Director of Undergraduate Engagement at Emory’s Tam Institute for Jewish Studies. Our Palestine Question is a new history of the American Jewish relationship with Israel focused on its most urgent and sensitive issue: the question of Palestinian rights. Given the ongoing genocide launched by the Israeli state on the Palestinians of Gaza, this book couldn't be more timely. Show notes: Fida Jiryis - Stranger in My Own Land: Palestine, Israel and One Family's Story of HomeEzra Klein - https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/26/opinion/netanyahu-biden-israel-gaza.htmlDavid Klion - https://www.nybooks.com/online/2024/01/28/the-exile-of-the-american-jewish-left/The threshold of dissent - https://nyupress.org/9781479829316/the-threshold-of-dissentNecessity of Exile (Shaul Magid’s book) - https://mitpressbookstore.mit.edu/book/9798986780313 The best way to support The Fire These Times is: Through ⁠⁠⁠Patreon.com/firethesetimes. With a monthly or yearly donation, you get perks including early access, exclusive videos, monthly hangouts, access to the video and book clubs, merch and more.Leave a review wherever you listen to podcasts. This allows us to show up on these platforms in the first place.Tell your friends and enemies about it. Episode Credits: Host: Dana El KurdProducer: Elia J. AyoubGuest: Geoffrey LevinMusic: ⁠Rap and Revenge⁠Sound editor: Elia J. AyoubEpisode designer: Elia J. Ayoub

This is a compilation of 4 episodes of our new podcast Politically Depressed, a weekly podcast by Lebanese writer and organizer Ayman Makarem. These are episodes 5-8 compiled into one long episode (with time codes below). If you enjoy this podcast, please consider following and rating it on whatever app you use to listen to your podcasts! Time codes: 00:00 - Episode 5: Sounds of Silence 22:00 - Episode 6: White People Cannot Stop Fascism (Alone) 48:30 - Episode 7: Life on Pause 1:12:20 - Episode 8: Treat Us As Though We're Mourning The best way to support Politically Depressed and The Fire These Times is through ⁠⁠⁠⁠Patreon.com/firethesetimes⁠⁠⁠⁠. The other best way is to leave a review about Politically Depressed and The Fire These Times wherever you listen to podcasts. Please do this if you haven't already. It makes a huge difference to our visibility. And the other other best way is to tell your friends and enemies about Politically Depressed and The Fire These Times.

For episode 151, Joey Ayoub and Daniel Voskoboynik host Tory Stephens, Climate Fiction Creative Manager at Grist.org, to talk about Imagine 2200: Climate Fiction for Future Ancestors and why narrative work is an integral part of any climate solution. Why does Imagine 2200 choose hope over dystopia? What are effective narrative shifting tactics and strategies? Stephens is also on the Hollywood Climate Summit Board so Joey talked to him about moving beyond post/apocalyptic films. We also asked him how listeners can take part in Imagine 2200. Relevant Links: The Tobacco campaign mentioned by Joey: https://www.unsmokeyourworld.com/en/Too Dystopian for Whom? A Continental Nigerian Writer’s Perspective by Oghenechovwe Donald Ekpeki https://www.uncannymagazine.com/article/too-dystopian-for-whom-a-continental-nigerian-writers-perspective/Imagine 2200 email updates: https://go.grist.org/signup/imagine-email About Imagine 2200: https://grist.org/about-imagine-2200-climate-fiction/ 2024 Collection Page: https://grist.org/imagine2200-climate-fiction-2024/ The best way to support The Fire These Times is through ⁠⁠⁠⁠Patreon.com/firethesetimes⁠⁠⁠⁠. The other best way is to leave a review about The Fire These Times wherever you listen to podcasts. Please do this if you haven't already. It makes a huge difference to our visibility. And the other other best way is to tell your friends and enemies about The Fire These Times. Credits Host(s): Joey Ayoub and Daniel Voskoboyni Producer(s): Joey Ayoub Guest(s): Tory Stephens Music: ⁠Rap and Revenge⁠ Sound editor(s): Joey Ayoub Episode designer(s): Joey Ayoub Portrait Arts (Joey and Daniel's): Molly Crabapple Artist of the original image: Taj Francis - Imagine 2200 Collection Cover

For episode 150, Lebanese journalist Justin Salhani guest hosts Lebanese researchers Michelle Eid and Karim Safieddine to talk about the under-reported and overlooked war in southern Lebanon. They look at the human impact of this conflict on Lebanon - a country that in just over four years has experienced a stunted revolution, one of modern history's worst economic crises, and the destruction of large parts of its capital due to a port explosion. They dissect media narratives, share personal anecdotes, and tie the current conflict to history, recalling the Israeli invasion of Lebanon in 1982, the 2006 war between Hezbollah and Israel, and more.  Michelle Eid is a researcher focused on socio-economic rights and development in the Levant, with a focus on food sovereignty and agricultural politics. She is also the editor-in-chief of Al Rawiya, a digital magazine covering the Levant. Karim Safieddine is an organizer and researcher from Lebanon; he's completing his PhD in Sociology at the University of Pittsburgh. Pieces by Salhani: Waiting for Nasrallah for The DialSurvivors of Israel’s siege of Beirut see history repeating itself in Gaza for Al JazeeraPalestinian refugees in Lebanon mourn, fear for family in war-torn Gaza for Al Jazeera‘No work back home’: Lebanon’s foreign domestic workers fear Israel war for Al JazeeraIsrael-Hamas war sparks south Lebanon exodus, as people flee border areas for Al Jazeera Pieces by Eid: Israel’s Environmental and Economic Warfare on Lebanon for TIMEP(In)Sovereign Soils: Lebanon’s Entrapment in a Global Monopoly on Agriculture for Al Rawiya Joey's Note: "October 17" isn't to be confused with "October 7". October 17 refers to the 2019 uprising in Lebanon whereas October 7 refers to the 2023 Hamas attack which was followed by Israel's ongoing genocidal war in Palestine. Book Recommendations:  House of Many Mansions - Karim SalibiReturn to Haifa - Ghassan KanafaniBeing Arab - Samir KassirThe New Left - Fawaz Traboulsi The best way to support The Fire These Times is through ⁠⁠⁠Patreon.com/firethesetimes⁠⁠⁠. The other best way is to leave a review about The Fire These Times wherever you listen to podcasts. Please do this if you haven't already. It makes a huge difference to our visibility. And the other other best way is to tell your friends and enemies about The Fire These Times. Credits Host: Justin Salhani Producer: Ayman Makarem Guests: Karim Safieddine, Michelle Eid Music: ⁠Rap and Revenge⁠ Sound editor: Ayman Makarem Episode designer: Joey Ayoub

The Fire These Times is expanding into a network of autonomous, decentralized projects and podcasts from the periphery. The first new addition to this media ecosystem is Politically Depressed, a new weekly, blog-style podcast by Lebanese writer and organizer Ayman Makarem. We've compiled the first 4 episodes of Politically Depressed into this compilation (with time codes below). If you enjoy this podcast, please consider following and rating it on whatever podcast app you use. Stay tuned to hear about the many other projects and podcasts we have lined up! Time codes: 1:40 - Episode 1: Introductions 19:18 - Episode 2: Israel Attacks Beirut 48:45 - Episode 3: Genocide Golden Globes 1:11:25 - Episode 4: Sanity or Humanity --- The best way to support Politically Depressed and The Fire These Times is through ⁠⁠⁠Patreon.com/firethesetimes⁠⁠⁠. The other best way is to leave a review about Politically Depressed and The Fire These Times wherever you listen to podcasts. Please do this if you haven't already. It makes a huge difference to our visibility. And the other other best way is to tell your friends and enemies about Politically Depressed and The Fire These Times.

For episode 149, Joey sat down with Karena Avedissian and Anna, TFTT returnees and co-hosts of Obscuristan, a podcast which is soon joining the broader network (whaaat? - We talk about that at the beginning of the episode). We talked about Azerbaijan hosting COP29 next year, the global climate conference, and why it might be a problem for a petro-dictatorship to host a climate conference. We discussed how Azerbaijan is trying to greenwash its recent genocide of the Armenians of Artsakh/Nagorno-Karabakh by claiming the area, devoid of its human population, has now achieved net-zero (yes, we're not joking). We also talked more broadly about the Armenian struggle for justice and what we might learn from the Palestinian one. You'll also hear Joey's exclusive, world-premiere take on Aliyev's ridiculous mustache. -- The best way to support The Fire These Times is through ⁠⁠Patreon.com/firethesetimes⁠⁠. The other best way is to leave a review about The Fire These Times wherever you listen to podcasts. Please do this if you haven't already. It makes a huge difference to our visibility. And the other other best way is to tell your friends and enemies about The Fire These Times. -- Links Learn For Artsakh on InstagramAzerbaijan presents green energy potential of Karabakh and Eastern Zangezur at COP28 in Dubai (Archived link)Augmented Azerbaijan? The return of Azerbaijani irredentism by Laurence BroersDon’t water it down: The role of water security in the Armenia-Azerbaijan war by Nareg KuyumjianThe Azerbaijan pavilion at COP28 in Dubai (Archived link)Nvard Yerkanian: They Came With PeaceWikipedia overview of COP28 -- Episode Credits Hosts: Joey Ayoub, Karena Avedissian and AnnaProducer: Joey AyoubMusic: ⁠Rap and Revenge⁠Main theme design: ⁠Wenyi Geng⁠Sound editor: Joey AyoubEpisode design: Joey Ayoub

For episode 148, Dana El Kurd and Joey Ayoub are joined by Diana Greenwald and Alexei Abrahams to talk about seen and unseen violence in Israel-Palestine. They explore the many forms of violence of the Israeli occupation that led to the October 7 massacre and the brutal Israeli response in Gaza. What is kinetic violence? What is structural violence? And how do these two differ? Diana is an Assistant Professor of Political Science at The City University of New York. Her research  focuses on the politics of the Middle East, nationalism, conflict, and  state-building. She obtained her Ph.D. in political science from the  University of Michigan in 2017. From 2017-8, she was Postdoctoral  Research Fellow at the Middle East Initiative at the Harvard Kennedy  School. Her current book manuscript examines Palestinian local politics  under Israeli occupation. This project draws on elite interviews and  local data on policing and taxation collected in the West Bank between  2014 to 2019. Alexei leads the digital trace team at the Canadian Media Ecosystem Observatory (MEO), McGill University. He is the author of a forthcoming book, Social Media Observatory (No Starch Press, 2024), on how to code full-stack web applications for public interest research on contemporary political discourse. He's also the author of "Seeing absence and all its instruments: How decontextualization of kinetic violence undermines our understanding of the Israel-Palestine Conflict." The best way to support The Fire These Times is through ⁠⁠Patreon.com/firethesetimes⁠⁠. The other best way is to leave a review about The Fire These Times wherever you listen to podcasts. And the other other best way is to tell your friends and enemies about The Fire These Times. Episode Credits Host: Joey Ayoub Producer: Ayman Makarem Music: ⁠Rap and Revenge⁠ Main theme design: ⁠Wenyi Geng⁠ Sound editor: Ayman Makarem Episode design: Joey Ayoub

This is an episode that Joey recorded a few months ago. We're releasing it now to take a bit of a break from our exploration of Israel-Palestine and because Solarpunk is how at least one of us, Joey, tries to create hope where none exists.  This episode was recorded after the four of us - Joey, Ariel Kroon, Luka Dowell and Andre aka @HydroponicTrash took part in the Solarpunk conference.  Solarpunk has an eye to a better future, but how do we get there? What is necessary for us to do, and how can we think differently, in order to make this better future possible? We focus on the relationship between speculative fiction, dual power, world-building, and political action. The best way to support The Fire These Times is through ⁠⁠Patreon.com/firethesetimes⁠⁠. The other best way is to leave a review about The Fire These Times wherever you listen to podcasts. And the other other best way is to tell your friends and enemies about The Fire These Times. Episode Credits Host: Joey Ayoub Producer: Artin Salimi Music: ⁠Rap and Revenge⁠ Main theme design: ⁠Wenyi Geng⁠ Sound editor: Artin Salimi Episode design: Joey Ayoub Links: https://anarchosolarpunk.substack.comHydroponic Trash on TikTokSolarpunk Now! Solarpunk Presents

In this remastered release, Joey Ayoub is joined by Sumaya Awad and Shireen Akram-Boshar. Awad is a co-editor of the book Palestine: A Socialist Introduction, and Akram-Boshar is a contributor to the same book. Originally released on May 20th 2021, this episode has been remastered and re-released. Many of the topics discussed - including the ethnic cleansing of Palestine, the growing solidarity movements around the globe, the Palestinian struggle for liberation - all resonate in today’s context. This episode serves as a reminder that the recent escalation in Palestine has origins well before Oct 7 and that calls to end Israel’s genocide are growing louder and louder.  Recommendations: Shireen: Freedom Is a Constant Struggle: Ferguson, Palestine, and the Foundations of a Movement Paperback by Angela Davis The Shock Doctrine by Naomi Klein Islamophobia and the Politics of Empire by Deepa Kumar A Woman in the Crossfire: Diaries of the Syrian Revolution by Samar Yazbeck Sumaya: The Ministry of Utmost Happiness by Arundhati Roy Smiley’s People by John le Carré Movies: Qafr Kassem by Borhan Alaouié The Feeling of Being Watched by Assia Boundaoui The best way to support The Fire These Times is through ⁠Patreon.com/firethesetimes⁠. The other best way is to leave a review about The Fire These Times wherever you listen to podcasts. And the other other best way is to tell your friends and enemies about The Fire These Times. Episode Credits Host: Joey Ayoub Producer: Ayman Makarem Music: Rap and Revenge Main theme design: Wenyi Geng Sound editor: Ayman Makarem Episode design: Joey Ayoub

In episode 146, Joey Ayoub and Dana El-Kurd talk to Sally Abed, Orly Noy and Amjad Iraqi. Abed is a member of the national leadership of Standing Together (עומדים ביחד نقف معًا), a grassroots movement mobilizing Jewish and Palestinian citizens of Israel in pursuit of peace, equality, and social and climate justice. Orly Noy is the chair of B'Tselem, arguably Israel's most well-known human rights NGO, and editor of the Hebrew-language news magazine Local Call. Amjad Iraqi is a member of Al-Shabaka: The Palestinian Policy Network, an editor and writer at +972 Magazine, and previously an advocacy coordinator at Adalah - The Legal Center for Arab Minority Rights in Israel. In this wide-ranging conversation, the hosts and guests spoke about the current state of Israel's political landscape, from its ongoing "Smotrichization" to the political crackdowns, from the normalization of genocidal rhetoric against Palestinians to the necessity of being "chronically optimistic" to push for change in Israel-Palestine. At a time when Netanyahu and the Israeli far-right have effectively taken over politics, and with so many self-described liberals joining in the calls for violence, principled left-wing voices seem all but gone in Israel. Finally, each guest shares their personal theory of change, offering a glimpse into their vision for the future.  These episodes are intended to be evergreen conversations. If you're interested in resources dedicated to real-time information, you can follow us on Instagram where we amplify voices on the ground in Palestine-Israel. The best way to support The Fire These Times is through ⁠Patreon.com/firethesetimes⁠. The other best way is to leave a review about The Fire These Times wherever you listen to podcasts. And the other other best way is to tell your friends and enemies about The Fire These Times.

Daniel and Joey host a conversation between Hadar Cohen and Dahab Kashi, exploring the radical power of Arab Jewish perspectives. Often seen as mutually exclusive identities, the existence and experience of Arab Jews transcends the narrow, and violent, confines of both Zionism and Arab Nationalism. The artist Yossi Zabari spoke about the power of the 'hyphen connecting Arab and Jew', and in this episode we explore the potential that acknowledging that hyphen has in our current critical moment. The best way to support The Fire These Times is through ⁠Patreon.com/firethesetimes⁠. The other best way is to leave a review about The Fire These Times wherever you listen to podcasts. And the other other best way is to tell your friends and enemies about The Fire These Times.   Credits: Host: Daniel Voskoboynik and Joey AyoubProducer: Ayman MakaremMusic: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Rap and Revenge⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Main theme design: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Wenyi Geng⁠⁠Sound editor: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Ayman MakaremEpisode design: Joey Ayoub

In light of the genocidal onslaught against Palestinians in Gaza following the October 7th Hamas attack, we've decided to re-release an old episode on Hamas, Gaza, and Palestine-Israel. In this episode from June 2021, Joey interviews Tareq Baconi, author of the book "Hamas Contained: The Rise and Pacification of Palestinian Resistance" published in 2018. Baconi meticulously outlines the nature of Israel's blockade on Gaza, the various aspects of Palestinian resistance to ongoing occupation, and contextualizes Hamas's role, structure, and motives within this wider social and political struggle. The audio is remastered and includes a new introduction by Joey that situates this conversation in the post Oct 7th reality. Episode Credits Host: Joey AyoubProducer: Ayman MakaremMusic: Rap and RevengeMain theme design: Wenyi GengSound editor: Ayman MakaremEpisode design: Joey Ayoub

For episode 144, Daniel is joined by renowned Sudanese Professor Abdullahi Ahmed An-Na’im for a wide-ranging conversation on human rights, spirituality, and inter-cultural justice. Professor An-Na’im is an internationally recognized scholar of Islam and human rights, specifically from cross-cultural perspectives, and teaches courses in international law, comparative law, human rights, and Islamic law. With intensifying human rights violations around the world, and longstanding failures from international bodies to curtail state and corporate impunity, how do we understand protecting human rights today? Abdullahi brings decades of experience as an activist, scholar and jurist to the table, drawing on cross-cultural prisms and critical religious thought. Mentions The works of Ustaz Mahmoud Taha: Brief Bio of Ustaz Mahmoud TahaSecond Message of Islam, The – Syracuse University Press Books by Professor Abdullahi Ahmed An-Na’im: Decolonizing Human RightsIslam and the Secular State — Abdullahi Ahmed An-Na'im | Harvard University Press The best way to support The Fire These Times is through ⁠Patreon.com/firethesetimes⁠. The other best way is to leave a review about The Fire These Times wherever you listen to podcasts. And the other other best way is to tell your friends and enemies about The Fire These Times. Contact You can follow The Fire These Times on: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Website⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Bluesky⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Twitter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Substack⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠You can follow Daniel on: Website | Twitter | Instagram Credits Host: Daniel VoskoboynikProducer: Ayman MakaremMusic: Rap and RevengeMain theme design: Wenyi GengSound editor: Ayman MakaremEpisode design: Joey Ayoub