Don't be naive! Co-Founder of Kolibri Games and Co-CEO of the investment firm BLN Capital, Daniel Stammler, has lived and worked by this motto and his success proves him right. With the money he earned by selling Kolibri Games, he and his co-founders want to support Germany's startup ecosystem and implement their motto into other companies. With Simon and Florian, he talks about the necessary ingredients for success: being courageous, not expecting shortcuts, listening to your audience and reducing your vision to what sets your idea apart from the rest.