Made For More

Ally Nitschke

Leadership is an inside-out job. The Made For More podcast is the ultimate leadership resource providing advice on tangible and tactical skills to level up your leadership. Including your leadership mindset, to lead yourself, your team and your organisation. The podcast interviews lighthouse leaders from all areas of leadership; business leaders, entrepreneurs, authors, speakers and gurus. Step away from the theory and the rule book and get ready to lead from your heart with courage and empathy. Be More | Do More | Achieve More You were made for so much more! www.madeformore.com.au For inquiries +61 412 052 404 | hello@madeformore.com.au read less
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{Ally Speaks} Myth-Busting Micromanagement: Debunking 7 Common Misconceptions
09-09-2024
{Ally Speaks} Myth-Busting Micromanagement: Debunking 7 Common Misconceptions
In this episode of the Made for More podcast, Ally Nitschke delves into the topic of micromanagement. Sharing insights from various industries she works with, Ally starts with myth-busting around micromanagement. She addresses the fear many leaders have of being labelled as micromanagers and debunks seven common myths. Stay tuned for part two where she will explore the problems with micromanagement.Holding people accountable is a crucial aspect of effective leadership and management. In the podcast episode, Ally Nitschke emphasises that holding people accountable is not synonymous with micromanaging. She clarifies that setting clear expectations and following up to ensure that desired results are achieved is a fundamental responsibility of a manager. By setting clear goals and monitoring progress towards those goals, leaders can ensure that their team is on track and aligned with organisational objectives.Accountability fosters a culture of responsibility and ownership within a team. It provides clarity on expectations and helps in tracking progress towards goals. When leaders hold their team members accountable, it promotes transparency, communication, and a sense of urgency to meet deadlines and deliver results. This proactive approach to accountability can enhance team performance and overall productivity.Micromanaging, on the other hand, involves excessive control and involvement in every detail of a team member's work. It undermines trust, stifles creativity, and hampers autonomy. By distinguishing between holding people accountable and micromanaging, leaders can create a balanced approach that empowers their team members while ensuring that tasks are completed effectively and efficiently.Following up on deadlines is a crucial aspect of effective management and leadership. In the podcast episode, Ally Nitschke emphasises that checking in on overdue tasks and following up on deadlines is not considered micromanaging but rather a fundamental management responsibility. By setting clear expectations and deadlines for tasks or projects, managers ensure that the team stays on track and delivers results in a timely manner.When managers fail to follow up on deadlines, it can lead to missed targets, delays in project completion, and a lack of accountability within the team. Ally Nitschke highlights the importance of holding team members accountable for meeting deadlines and delivering results. This practice not only ensures that projects progress smoothly but also helps in maintaining a high level of productivity and efficiency within the team.By actively monitoring deadlines and progress, managers can make necessary adjustments, provide support where needed, and address any potential roadblocks that may hinder the team's success. This proactive approach to following up on deadlines demonstrates effective leadership and a commitment to achieving organisational goals.While some may perceive following up on deadlines as micromanaging, it is, in fact, a vital management practice that fosters accountability, drives productivity, and ensures the successful completion of projects. Managers who prioritise timely follow-ups on deadlines exhibit strong leadership skills and contribute to a culture of excellence within their teams.Setting clear guidelines and being organised and detail-oriented are crucial aspects of effective leadership. In the podcast episode, Ally Nitschke emphasises the importance of setting clear guidelines as a way to provide direction and boundaries for the team. She mentions that setting clear guidelines is not micromanaging but rather a kind and essential practice in leadership. By defining boundaries and offering clear direction, leaders can ensure that their team understands expectations and can work towards achieving the desired outcomes.To talk about Booking Ally for your next event or professional Development activity, find a complimentary...
{Guest} The Reconnection Revolution: Overcoming the Loneliness Epidemic with Celeste Halliday
27-06-2024
{Guest} The Reconnection Revolution: Overcoming the Loneliness Epidemic with Celeste Halliday
In this episode of the Made for More podcast, I had the pleasure of hosting Celeste Halliday, a renowned coach, keynote speaker, and facilitator with over 25 years of experience working with leaders and their teams. Celeste shared her journey from running away to London after a challenging personal experience to leading the UK's largest social healthcare provider. This pivotal moment ignited her passion for connection and transforming workplace culture.We delved into the concept of the loneliness epidemic, as highlighted by Vivek Murthy, and discussed how modern work environments often lead to disconnection despite technological advancements. Celeste introduced her Connected Leader System, which emphasizes the importance of connecting with oneself, finding meaning and purpose, and fostering genuine connections with others.Celeste's insights on the physical and emotional impacts of loneliness were eye-opening, and she provided practical advice on how leaders can create more connected and fulfilling workplaces. We also touched on the importance of authenticity, alignment, and attention in leadership, and how these elements contribute to a thriving organizational culture.For those looking to deepen their understanding of leadership and connection, Celeste's work and upcoming book on the Reconnection Revolution offer valuable resources. You can find more about her Connected Leader System on her website and follow her on LinkedIn and Instagram for regular updates and practical leadership advice.Thank you, Celeste, for sharing your expertise and inspiring us to create more connected and meaningful work environments.[00:03:44] Connection obsession began in London.[00:06:15] Work-Life Balance Discovery.[00:10:23] Loneliness pandemic.[00:14:38] Fear of busyness culture.[00:15:23] Rediscovering your inner child.[00:19:50] Building Executive Presence.[00:25:31] Listening with fascination.[00:28:59] Focusing on active listening.[00:33:25] The reconnection revolution.To connect with Celeste, you can find her on LinkedINWebsiteInsta
{Guest} Overcoming Imposter Syndrome: Transforming Doubt into Leadership with Josephine Palermo
25-09-2023
{Guest} Overcoming Imposter Syndrome: Transforming Doubt into Leadership with Josephine Palermo
In today's episode of the Made for More podcast, we had the pleasure of welcoming back Josephine Palmero, who previously joined us in season five. Josephine, an expert on imposter syndrome, shared invaluable insights into this pervasive issue that affects many high achievers.Josephine discussed her personal journey with imposter syndrome, detailing her experiences in high-responsibility roles at Telstra and as an academic in organisational psychology. Despite her successes, she often battled feelings of doubt and incompetence, which she later addressed through therapy and her background in psychology.We delved into the definition of imposter syndrome, characterised by a chronic sense of self-doubt and a fear of being exposed as a fraud, despite evident competencies. Josephine highlighted that this phenomenon is not limited to women, as it was once thought, but is also prevalent among men.The conversation also covered strategies for overcoming imposter syndrome. Josephine emphasised the importance of building confidence, not by proving competence but by fostering a belief in one's ability to handle challenges. She shared practical tips such as sharing failures, reframing thoughts, taking credit for achievements, and avoiding detrimental social comparisons.Josephine's insights are not only enlightening but also empowering, encouraging us to transform our imposters into leaders. For those looking to connect with Josephine or learn more about her work, she can be found on LinkedIn and Instagram.Thank you for tuning in to this enlightening discussion on imposter syndrome. Remember to subscribe for more episodes, and feel free to connect with me on social media for updates and more engaging content.Catch you in the next episode!
080: Reflecting on Success and Celebrating Season Five with Ally Nitschke
07-08-2023
080: Reflecting on Success and Celebrating Season Five with Ally Nitschke
In this episode of the Made For More podcast, host Ally Nitschke wraps up season five, which focused on Leadership Your Way. She starts by expressing gratitude to her team for making the podcast possible. Ally emphasises the importance of a diverse approach to leadership, highlighting the need for different perspectives and strategies.Episode 66 introduces a new segment called Ally Speaks, where Ally answers questions and discusses her favourite topics. The episode also serves as an opportunity for Ally to thank her team and acknowledge their contributions to the podcast's success.Episode 67 features an interview with an award-winning pharmacist and entrepreneur Karen Brown. Karen shares insights on the most important leadership skills for 2023 and beyond, providing valuable advice for aspiring and current leaders.Episode 68, Ally interviews Clifford Morgan, a former member of the Royal Australian Air Force. Clifford shares his expertise on becoming a coaching leader and nurturing the next generation of leaders.Episode 69 features Renee Draper, the Chief People Officer at Peregrine Corporation. Renee discusses why great leadership goes beyond a title and emphasises the importance of building strong relationships and fostering a positive work culture.Episode 70, Dr Eva Balin-Vunuk joins Ally to discuss the differences between leadership in the public and private sectors. They explore the unique challenges and opportunities faced by leaders in each context.Episode 71 delves into the power of influence and how it impacts success in the workplace. Ally shares practical tips and strategies for increasing one's influence and achieving professional goals.Episode 72, Professor Jenny Shaw joins the podcast to discuss leadership in academia. They explore the unique challenges and opportunities faced by academic leaders and share insights on effective leadership strategies in this context.Episode 73, focuses on the importance of reflection and celebration. Ally encourages listeners to take time to reflect on their successes and celebrate their achievements in various areas of life, including family, brain power, health, productivity, learning, finances, fun, and the physical environment.
079: Building Self-Awareness and Effective Communication with Mel Kettle
31-07-2023
079: Building Self-Awareness and Effective Communication with Mel Kettle
In this episode, host Ally Nitschke interviews Mel Kettle who is an expert in leadership and communication. Mel's extensive experience includes working with associations, non-profits, and iconic brands. She is also the host of the podcast Disconnected Life and the author of two books.Mel shares her background and journey into the communication and leadership space. She recounts her first job counting people on the ski tube in the New South Wales Central Coast, as well as her experience organising conferences and working for the Office of Fair Trading in Queensland. Mel emphasises the importance of understanding the pain points of your audience and effectively communicating the right message at the right time.Ally and Mel discuss the challenges of communication and the importance of self-awareness. They provide valuable tips on becoming more self-aware, such as asking oneself questions, listening to others, and observing behaviours. They also highlight the significance of connection in both personal relationships and professional settings.Mel provides five essential tips for new leaders, including taking care of one's health, avoiding burning bridges, setting clear boundaries, understanding values and priorities, and leaving an organisation with grace.The episode covers four crucial lessons for starting a new job, which include prioritising health, maintaining good relationships, establishing clear boundaries, and starting as one intends to continue. Mel also emphasises the importance of learning to communicate with conviction to effectively influence, engage, inspire, and motivate.Listeners are encouraged to connect with Mel through her website, LinkedIn, Instagram, Threads, or by email. Ally also invites listeners to subscribe to the Made For More podcast and leave a positive review on Apple Podcasts. Both Ally and Mel can be found on various social media platforms such as LinkedIn, Facebook, and Instagram.Mel Kettle is an internationally recognised expert in fully connected leadership and communication. With more than two decades of experience, Mel is a valuable asset to leaders and teams that want to achieve real connection and sustained engagement. She is the host of the podcast This Connected Life and the author of two books, the best-selling Fully Connected and The Social Association. Connect with MelLinkedIn, Twitter, Instagram and her website. Connect With Ally NitschkeMadeformore.com.auConnect with me on LinkedInConnect with me on Instagram and FacebookSubscribe to my YouTube channelGet our
078: Exploring Feminine Power: Unleashing the Potential of Modern Leadership with Josephine Palermo
24-07-2023
078: Exploring Feminine Power: Unleashing the Potential of Modern Leadership with Josephine Palermo
In this podcast episode, Ally Nitschke and Josephine Palermo delve into the topic of femininity and feminine power in the workplace and leadership roles. Drawing on her expertise as a PhD holder in education and her extensive experience in corporate Australia, Palermo asserts that femininity is not only relevant but serves as the foundation for modern leadership. She argues that recruitment processes should consider not only technical expertise but also relational capabilities, which can be found in both men and women. Palermo emphasises the importance of creating a work environment and culture that fosters collaboration and allows individuals to thrive. Additionally, she highlights the need for senior leaders to unlearn outdated behaviours and become allies to women in the workplace.The discussion continues with an exploration of the challenges faced by executives today, including increased interdependencies between functional roles, the need for vulnerability and personal leadership, and the importance of involving more women in finding solutions. Palermo shares an example from her book, where a male executive berates a male manager for his reluctance to engage with a stakeholder, using derogatory language. A senior female manager calls out this behaviour, prompting an open dialogue about its implications. Rather than focusing solely on behaviour change, Palermo advocates for dialogue and self-reflection, asking questions such as "What if we did it differently?" and "What are my biases?". She emphasises that men and women face similar challenges and encourages compassion and open dialogue to help men understand and navigate these issues.To wrap up the episode, Palermo offers five tips for effective leadership, including believing in one's unique feminine strengths, gaining awareness of biases, motivating individuals through autonomy, and prioritising teamwork. Listeners are invited to visit www.risingtofemininepower.com to learn more about Palermo's book, "Rising to Feminine Power," which features Wonder Woman on the cover.Josephine Palermo is a sought-after speaker, author, leadership coach, mentor, and podcast host with a deep understanding of gender psychology and organizational dynamics. Her philosophy centres around feminine power, as documented in her latest book "Rising to Feminine Power: The Lasso of Truth," where she explores the journey women go through to achieve true feminine power and addresses the struggles many women face with power. Josephine's popular podcast, "Gears, Action, Growth: Shifting Business Culture One Conversation at a Time," showcases her engaging conversational style and expertise, providing valuable knowledge, resources, and inspiration to the audience. Her key focus areas include helping women overcome barriers, viewing leadership through a positive feminine lens, and creating enriched and inclusive cultures that support women leaders to thrive.Links and Resources:Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/gearedforgrowth.bizFacebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/risingtofemininepower  Twitter: @geared_4_growthInstagram: @gearedforgrowth.biz LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/josephinepalermo/Website:
074: How To Develop Courageous And Servant Leadership with Sarah Morse
26-06-2023
074: How To Develop Courageous And Servant Leadership with Sarah Morse
What does it take to become a servant leader? What about courage - is it an essential part of modern leadership?In this episode, I got to interview Sarah Morse, a professional speaker, healthcare professional, and former (NSW) Young Australian of the Year. Sarah draws on 20 years as a nurse and humanitarian to bring a uniquely global and human perspective to the way humans think, work, and behave. What I absolutely enjoyed about this conversation was Sarah’s passion for servant and courageous leadership. Through her personal experience of burnout, Sarah believes that empowering people to thrive in the workplace is the most important part of a healthy workforce.Expect to learn more about servant leadership, the benefits of cultivating a culture of courage in the workplace, how to live your values as a leader, and easily applicable tools you can use to become a servant leader. Topics We Discussed Include:Introduction (00:00)Biggest Challenges Facing Modern Leaders (04:20)Sarah’s Time in a Romanian Orphanage (07:27)Everyday Servant Leadership (11:16)Living Your Values as a Leader (14:43)How to Unpack and Develop Your Own Personal Values (17:00)Benefits of Cultivating a Culture of Courage in the Team (18:50)Servant Leadership Plus Courageous Leadership at Work (20:27)Top 5 Tips for Leaders and Upcoming Leaders (23:28)Parting thoughts (26:59)Links and Resources:Sarah’s LinkedInSarahmorse.com.auConnect With Ally NitschkeMadeformore.com.auConnect with me on LinkedInConnect with me on Instagram and FacebookSubscribe to my YouTube channelGet our Courageous Conversations Guide
073: Reflect: One Of The Most Powerful Practices for Leaders with Ally Nitschke
20-06-2023
073: Reflect: One Of The Most Powerful Practices for Leaders with Ally Nitschke
Do you ever take time to reflect? When was the last time you made time to reflect on your life, celebrate wins, and assess your current situation? Today’s episode will be a little different from the leadership broadcasting we normally have. Instead, we’ll cover the benefits of creating time to reflect and celebrate life. Expect to learn the benefits of making time for reflection, how to make time for reflection, what to reflect on, the eight buckets in the Made for More success wheel, and much more!What You’ll Learn:Introduction (00:00)Creating Time to Reflect and Reevaluate (02:20)The Made for More Success Wheel (03:04)The Friends and Family Segment (04:24)Brain Power and How Our Minds Work (07:56)Making Time for Health and Recreation (11:28)Time and Productivity (14:11)Work, Study, and Finding Joy in Life-Long Learning (17:17)Have a Firm Grasp on Your Finances (19:13)The Fun Bucket (20:58)The Physical Environment (24:18)Why You Need to Forget About Perfection (25:56)Parting Thoughts (27:35)Links and Resources:Get the Reflect & Celebrate Workbook HereHigh Performance Habits: How Extraordinary People Become That Way by Brendon BurchardDear Digital, We need to talk: A guilt-free guide to taming your tech habits and thriving in a distracted world by Kristy GoodwinConnect With Ally NitschkeCheck out the Made For More blog HereMadeformore.com.auConnect with me on LinkedInConnect with me on Instagram and FacebookSubscribe to my YouTube channelGet our Courageous Conversations Guide
072: The Role of Transformational Leadership in Academic Institutions with Professor Jennie Shaw
12-06-2023
072: The Role of Transformational Leadership in Academic Institutions with Professor Jennie Shaw
Leadership means many things in academia. The good news is that with all the changes happening in the world, it’s an exciting time to be in higher education. The not-so-good news is that leadership in academia poses ethical and structural challenges that require a special set of capabilities.In this episode, I got to interview Professor Jennie Shaw, the Deputy Vice-Chancellor and Vice-President of Academics at The University of Adelaide. I had an absolute blast speaking with Professor Shaw about her unique takes on leadership in the world of academia. Tune in to learn more about leadership styles in academia, why Australians are no longer going to university, and some intriguing thoughts on personal leadership. Let’s go! Topics We Discussed Include:Introduction (00:00)Getting to know Jennie Shaw (01:55)How Jennie successfully balances careers in art and law (03:50)The future of equity and fairness in Australia (06:07)Reasons why fewer Australians are going to university (08:58)Why the idea around careers is shifting among Australian youth (12:50)How to take on a new skill without disrupting your current life (16:50)The evolution of Jennie’s leadership (18:40)Jennie’s thoughts on personal leadership (21:03)Learning to become an adaptable leader (23:45)Taking time off after a hectic 2022 (26:33)Top 5 tips for leaders and upcoming leaders (28:10)Parting thoughts (34:56)Links and Resources:Jennie’s LinkedInConnect With Ally NitschkeMadeformore.com.auConnect with me on LinkedInConnect with me on Instagram and FacebookSubscribe to my YouTube channelGet our Courageous Conversations Guide
070: Public vs. Private Sector Leadership: What's the Difference? with Dr. Eva Balan-Vnuk
01-06-2023
070: Public vs. Private Sector Leadership: What's the Difference? with Dr. Eva Balan-Vnuk
What is it like leading teams in government agencies? How different is it from leading teams in private organizations like Microsoft? In this episode, I got to interview Dr. Eva Balan-Vnuk, the Chief Information Officer at the Department of the Premier and Cabinet, Government of South Australia. Eva is a senior business & thought leader with experience in senior roles such as State Director for Microsoft. I met Eva at a conference in 2022 and was absolutely blown away by her leadership journey.Tune in to learn more about what it's like working for the government, why you should never lower your standards as a leader, how to cope with culture shock at a new job, and much more. Make sure you have your notebooks ready because this one's a cracker!Topics We Discussed Include:Introduction (00:00)Getting to know Dr. Eva Balan-Vnuk (03:38)How Eva transitioned from working in tech to working for the government (04:46)What it means to work around lean processes (06:19)Biggest challenges working for the government (07:26) Why lowering standards sets everyone up for failure (10:02)Benefits of running a values workshop (15:30)Leaders act as they must, not as they feel they should (19:10)Characteristics of high-flying teams in government (20:09)What Eva does out of work to decompress (25:09)Tech in 2016 versus tech in 2023 (27:42) Top 5 tips for leaders and upcoming leaders (34:13)Parting thoughts (38:04)Links and Resources:Eva's WebsiteEva's LinkedInFollow Eva on TwitterConnect With Ally NitschkeMadeformore.com.auConnect with me on LinkedInConnect with me on Instagram and FacebookSubscribe to my YouTube channelGet our Courageous Conversations Guide
069: Why Great Leadership is Much More Than Your Title with Renee Draper
31-05-2023
069: Why Great Leadership is Much More Than Your Title with Renee Draper
Are you a young leader? Do you think you’re worthy of respect? Gone are the days when leaders automatically received respect due to their titles. Today’s teams demand a new type of leader; the type worthy of their respect, regardless of age. In this episode, I interviewed Renee Draper, the Chief People Officer of Peregrine Corporation. Renee has a long history of leading large teams in highly strategic but practical workplaces where people, service, and positive experiences are at the heart of everything they do. I absolutely loved Renee’s passion for creating a workplace where people want to be part of something exciting and take ownership of the organization’s success. Tune in to hear Renee describe what it takes to build a strong people culture, why a title doesn’t necessarily earn you people’s respect, and how having structure can free up your life. Let’s go! Topics We Discussed Include:Getting to Know Renee Draper (00:00)Renee’s First Taste of Leadership (04:27)Why Renee Joined Peregrine Corporation (06:47)What It’s Like Transforming Owner-Operated Businesses (07:58)Renee’s Big Why (09:16)How to Build Resilience For Yourself and Your Team (11:22)Renee’s Resilience Practice (13:28)How Having Structure Can Free Up Your Life (18:27)The Benefits of Making Time For Reflection (20:22)Major Highlights in Renee’s Career So Far (21:05)Top 5 tips for leaders and upcoming leaders (24:23)Parting thoughts (27:29)Links and Resources:Renee’s LinkedInConnect With Ally NitschkeMadeformore.com.auConnect with me on LinkedInConnect with me on Instagram and FacebookSubscribe to my YouTube channelGet our Courageous Conversations Guide
068: How to Become a Coaching Leader and Help Create the Next Generation of Leaders with Clifford Morgan
30-05-2023
068: How to Become a Coaching Leader and Help Create the Next Generation of Leaders with Clifford Morgan
What was your first month in leadership like? If you’re like most people, you probably weren’t good at it. I know I wasn’t, but my experience doesn’t come close to what today’s guest experienced. In just his first month as a leader, 15 volunteers quit. Imagine that! In this episode, I got to interview Clifford Morgan, a former member of the Royal Australian Air Force and now the Director and Principal of Lumian Consulting - a firm helping leaders and organizations unlock their potential and performance. What I absolutely loved about this conversation was Clifford’s ability to use illustrative stories and practical strategies to demonstrate the transformative power of coaching leadership.Tune in to hear Cliff share insights into what it means to be a coaching leader, how to develop a pipeline of leaders for your organization, and ways to help your employees become better problem solvers.Topics We Discussed Include:Introduction (00:00)Getting to know Clifford Morgan (02:00)Clifford’s journey to the Australian Air Force (03:40)Leadership in the Air Force versus civilian leadership (04:55)How Clifford lost 15 volunteers in his first month as a leader (08:53)Breaking down Clifford’s book The Coaching Leader (11:08)The difference between a good leader and a great leader (14:27)Roadblocks to Effective Leadership (17:47) How long does it take to become a coaching leader? (21:40)Ways to help your employees become better problem solvers (26:52) Top 5 tips for leaders and upcoming leaders (29:00)Parting thoughts (33:24)Links and Resources:Clifford’s LinkedInClifford’s websiteThe Coaching Leader: Essential Skills to Enhance Your Leadership and Develop Your People Every Day by Clifford MorganConnect With Ally NitschkeMadeformore.com.auConnect with me on LinkedInConnect with me on Instagram and FacebookSubscribe to my YouTube channelGet our Courageous Conversations Guide
067: The Most Important Leadership Skills for 2023 and Beyond with Karen Brown
29-05-2023
067: The Most Important Leadership Skills for 2023 and Beyond with Karen Brown
Why do professional athletes make the best leaders and entrepreneurs? Which unique qualities among successful athletes can translate into the business world? In this episode, I got to interview Karen Brown, an award-winning pharmacist, entrepreneur, and Founder of Batch Tested - a company on a mission to ensure no athlete returns a positive drug test due to a contaminated supplement or nutritional product. What I absolutely loved about Karen is her ability to wear many hats - Pharmacist, Pharmacy Owner, Founder, Director, Leader, Speaker and most proudly wife and mum.Tune in to hear Karen drop nugget after nugget on how the busiest people get things done, why nothing exciting happens in equilibrium, and the building blocks of kind, connected, and courageous leadership. This one’s an absolute banger! Topics We Discussed Include:Introduction (00:00)Getting to Know Karen Brown (03:34)Why Karen Chose to Pursue Pharmacy (06:20)Balancing Study and Professional Sports (08:49) How the Busiest People Get More Things Done (10:39)The Benefits of Living in the Present (13:50)Karen’s First Taste of Entrepreneurship (17:53)Why Leaders Need to Stop Trying to Fix Everything (21:58)The Concept of Coaching in Leadership (24:50)Batch Tested and What It's All About (28:10)Top 5 tips for leaders and upcoming leaders (32:57)Parting thoughts (34:54)Links and Resources:Karen’s LinkedInBatchtested.com.auConnect With Ally NitschkeMadeformore.com.auConnect with me on LinkedInConnect with me on Instagram and FacebookSubscribe to my YouTube channelGet our Courageous Conversations Guide